Sorry to over-react, mags61 - rough day and I get tired of reading umpteen variations of this same stuff in this forum every other month. You weren't disagreeing with me, you were judging my comments non-sequitor and not germane to the conversation. Not disagreeing with my points. To wit: "I'm sorry Rykk but I don't think the crux of this thread has anything to do with the H20 list" Seems to me that one who is "full of their own self importance" would stand off smugly on the edges of this community and would not "lower themselves" to spend a little time encouraging the other artists around here and being friendly or helpful.... Now I'm done with this, too. Rick