Of course, arriving late.... This is a good discussion, and although tiring sometimes, I think it's good to get it all out every once in awhile (and we do every other month it seems). However, we do NOT need to start attacking each other. That is NOT what this forum is about. Let's try to get along, please or no-one will benefit. Mags- For one, this site IS helpful. There is always help to be found in the forums. Post a question, and you usually get the help you need, from more than one member. And fun- it can be fun if we don't resort to arguing instead of helping. Yes, this thread is about commenting, but also pertains to the Hot 20 as well. As was originally stated in the first post by Fractalinda: "I've been aware of the "you pat my back and I'll pat yours" mentality that seems to happen almost automatically..but, latley, it has become more of a concern..." It's all related, really. Getting to Keith's earlier point- If you want honest comments you have to ask for them. Unfortunately that is most often the case. How do you know if your comments will offend someone? Believe me it happens alot (I have had many many IMs and e-mails over comments in my time here). Of course, sometimes it is due to the language barrier. I am all for honest comments, as long as they don't 'attack' the art or the artist. That can be tricky sometimes, yes. But if you really want to know how well you are doing....try like Keith said- specifically ask for them under your images. And commenting without regard to 'who' the artist is, is always a good idea. And that includes voting on images, as well :D Have a great day! Nick

Nick C. Sorbin
Staff Writer
Renderosity Magazine
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