Thank you all! Learned a lot already. Maxxxmodelz, your images is some of the best I have seen!! How long did it take you to get to that level of realism? I'm going to buy the script for skin from face off, which seems to be what everyone suggests. I can't make heads or tails frm that tutorial about how to do it yourself. It's above my ability right now. Thank you all again for the great feedback. Poser has come a long way!!!