LOL yea that bit about "but I'm not going to" was not on par. Ok well let's just hope someone else from EF like CL-Steve will come in here and clear it all up soon. By the way, I have Poser 5 - do you guys feel it is worth upgrading to Poser 6 now with the SR1 if what I mostly do are still scenes that I later export to 3D Max as OBJ files?