Explain Stupid Trick 4 in more detail please. I have my own reference system, but maybe yours is easier, better. I will put up another small animation on Sunday explaining your to warp a mirror and have your character appear/materialize out of it. One suggestion for everyone, because this forum is not program specific, if your trick is program specific, start the post with the program and version number, like "Animation Master 10.5 and up", or "Poser 5 and up", or "Any 3D animation program" if the principles do not need program specific features.

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