(Any particular reason for not using the Developers' forum ?) yeah, nruddock, I needed some new blood for testing and the best way to find it was putting the word out here on the poser forum. If I had only posted a developers forum would have gone unnoticed for the most part. I really didn't expect this forum thread to get too large. I have been thinking alot my self about how to move this to the developers or even to my guild forum. Next time I do this, I will refer people to the developers forum with my first posting. I appologize to the moderaters. Thank you for allowing me to continue here. This will not happen again. marty