And I think this is why we need an area where the pro pack is addressed. You and I know that the threads slip by, all mixed up in other items, and if you don't check constantly you might miss something. I still vote for an area that addresses the pro pack so we can follow this thing. I can't find a bug report area anywhere at CL, sent an email to tech support there and was sent a reply stating they had kicked it on to QA. Still haven't heard a word. I would imagine the beta testers were recruited from this group of users, among others. I cannot believe that someone like myself has done something to bring out "hidden" problems, something the beta testers didn't have happen to them. Come on people!!! I just loaded the program and pulled in a regular Poser character! You can't tell me this didn't happen to the beta testers, which means they kicked out a defective product knowing this would happen. I at LEAST expect the company to acknowledge that they did this and not expect us to act like sheep and say, "oh, they've been good to us so we'll just accept the fact that every program has bugs and we can wait a few months for them to iron it out". It's not like I'm addressing the python issue, I'm addressing an issue that any person would come up against. I still use the male and female characters in some of my work, so I expect to be able to use them. I'm not even complaining aabout a morphed out character that I downloaded or bought, I'm talking about Poser characters that come with the program that you would expect to work!!! What's going to happen if I start using my Lightwave stuff? Sorry to rant but this is not acceptable for me to hunt through the threads to find an answer or to see if it's even being addressed!! If you want us to beta test it then give us some credit! Marque