Marlene, I only have a minute...running to work...i will see if i can find that image of Gerhard's that you mentioned tonight after work. I've never studied design so please tell me more!!!!! you...sound like an idiot????? are you NUTS????? no way! you explain things in a way that makes sense to me. that helps a lot!!! keep tellin' me more...and always tell me more about how i can improve compositionally. it doesn't hurt my feelings...helps me improve! if i've done something right here, yippee for me! LOL! what you said makes sense. just when i'm takin' pics...i don't in those terms. i'm just FEELING!!!! i need to think more i think!!! LOL! HUGE HUGGGZZZ back at you!!!!!! i think i should post simon uh...Sunday...hmmm...would that be after i get home from work tonight? i think so. oh boy...i'd better think about that. thanks again, Marlene...i'll look tonight! Kevin...it's interesting to hear everyone's thoughts, isn't it! later guys!