Think of it this way... There are a LOT of Fractal progs out there. This might be a good way to learn something new, or really see what other progs are capable of :D As I said, the Themed Challenge will remain, as it allows all Fractal programs. And while the Apo Tweak Fest has been doing well, if we have more than two Challenges running in a month's time, the entries would most likely be fewer in each. We may do well to try and group certain progs, too, like sammi mentioned: "...specifically for the 3d fractal renderers" Let's get some more opinions and suggestions, and see what works :D In the meantime, hope everyone is having a great weekend! Nick

Nick C. Sorbin
Staff Writer
Renderosity Magazine
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