Well, Heard about Maxman. It does not support Max R7 I guess. Does it? Don't know Plz tell. And its no good using it if you have to rewrite all your shaders and all. PaxRendus is a better choice if you wanna go through all the trouble. Well, all these cost a wallop though and it would take me months, if not years to save for these. Something like MTOR (RAT) would really rock for Max. Though at my level of work, you can use Vray, or even POVRay and the final results don't differ much to cuss about or needing to spend a few thousand bucks here and there. The renderer doesn't matter much unless you are working for ILM or Pixar :). But the time it takes to render does. My Prof was telling me that PRman at normal res and stills is just as good as V-ray, though at anims its way better. V-ray I think is my renderer of choice. Quick n cheap. And I just posted a Poser test scene to Max via GestureMax. And set it up to render with V-ray, GI N all :) Lets see how it turns up. A final word needed: Which is better for Poser to Max, Reiss BodyStudio or Gesture Max. Anyone who has used 'em plz tell. Thanks