WOWOWOW!!! YOU GUYS ARE GREAT!!! copying out links and notes madly Thanks so very much!! I had found that by re-sizing the script window it slowed down..and hitting a key stops it... I saved one.. it said it would be 99 mb.. but I didn't believe it, so saved anyway.. it was like 3! It might have meant processing ram or something... I also downloaded the UF demo AGAIN to try harder with it too.. seems that it can do all the kinds of fractals that are in the little free programs plus all those fancy other things (am nuts over locomouse's bird)... Thanks very much! I know the more I learn about any fractal program, the more I will find my way in others... so will practice with the information you all gave me, look at the tutorials...and then try UF again... baby steps?!? LOL!! Lyne

Life Requires Assembly and we all know how THAT goes!