Doc, That's the reason it's taking so long, plus my work schedule takes alot of my time too and by the time I get home, sometimes I don't even feel like opening Poser to work on it. Anyway, since it's nice weather now, I hate being stuck inside. Wings3D? Nope, don't even understand how it use that or any other 3d modeling program. That's why I was so excited to be able to do this....in Poser. Got the IM and just replied. Stan