LOL, acadia. You probably don't know this, but I sell through DAZ, so I already work full-time for them making my own products. In fact, I happened to stumble across this when I was working on an update to an old product, to make it compatible with P5/6 and DS. I have a few things I've thought about writing tutes on, but I never have the time to do it. At the moment, I have 9 -12 months of projects waiting to be done. Funnily enough, this is the first time in over a year that I've used vicki for anything other than standing naked in the default position in test renders. I'm updating a photographic studio I made 4 years ago, and I decided I needed a decent-looking model in the pics. If you or anyone else wants to do a tute, feel free. It's not a difficult effect to get. Hey! When you get the money, you could have a look in my store! How about that? mac