Wahoo! Renderosity comes through for me again! I ended up useing both Mark & Chips method. I used the logotest1.zip as a base but then texture mapped some of the 'enviroment blocks' like Chip suggested above. Actually I sort of feel like a dolt..I was so close but yet so far :) Must be how all those scientists felt after they thru the weights off the tower of pisa (sp?) and found out that they fell at the same speed:) Its always easy after you see the obvious..... Thanks Everyone!