well after talking to a helpful person in another forum I am to the conclusion now that it may BE my large runtime thats messing up my menus....it sounds like I have too many folders.....unfortunately I do not have time to go through now and weed everything out to seperate runtimes (and I'm actually quite fond of how I have it set up now anyways, I know right where EVERYTHING is, LOL :P) but if anyone knows of any way to get around this without having to seperate my runtime, please feel free to let me know ;) Who knows....I may just go back to P5 for a while, this is getting to be so much more work and the only extra features I had really been using were some IBL's and the area preview :P I just don't know.....:::shakes head:::