I wonder if it's possible to sell a version without the Python, for people who aren't interested in learning it or using it. I want the full ability, as I will be learning Python for this and other reasons. I think the community would better serve the newbies if they pulled the Python Script stuffage out of the regular Poser freestuff and put it in it's own spot with a disclaimer stating the problems that you might have if you don't know what you're doing...well, maybe put a little better than that...lol I think Fox is right in being concerned, but I think if newbies go in to download the scripts and they are told they need to read the manual carefully that would be enough. You can't hold their hand all the way, but to separate them and give the warning will show that the moderators are showing concern for the new peeps. They can really screw up the models in the setup room too, so you can't sit with them and walk them through, but warnings are nice. Rambling on, Marque