Query... how full are your folders for M3 and V3? How many layers of nesting do you have? Because of all the myriad "pose" files, they bloat very quickly. If you have an installation of Poser without a bloated Runtime, do you still have a menu problem? I'm not a programmer, but the mental image I'm getting is of counting too many fingers and toes until the poor machine doesn't know if it is looking at a hand or a foot. Carolly