I really, really can't wait for this. The joint work is astounding and the philosophy behind the mesh looks dead on. I >love< that it isn't overly locked into one shape... the basic "default" mesh is an almost perfect basis for taking morphs on... and that will be the key to it's success. With all the dials in M3 and V3 I still can't really >change< so much about them because of the way Daz builds morphs and the limitations of the "unimesh" concept. ApolloMaximus doesn't look like he has that problem! Now I can just wait forever for Venus. sigh