Skill, my friend, I look at it this way : If you were making a movie, you wouldn't, say, learn to build every automobile in the movie from scratch, would you? That said, I refuse to use anyone else's props, except for Incarnadine's katana, which rules and stars in at least two of my scenes...! It depends on where you're at, and where you're going. I needed to learn Rhino, so I am, and I can make just about anything in that program. I agree with your first post, Skill. There are many, many multitudes of "sheep" that use Bryce on a minimal level, with no ingenuity, innovation, or drive. They are in all senses of the word, "Rookies". Or "Newbies", if you prefer. That's okay, though. It only serves to make the good stuff stand out. Sometimes you'll see rookies giving other rookies praise for the crappiest art ever. That's okay, too! Let them be sub-standard. Now stroll through the galleries and take note : Almost ALL of the best Brycers hang out here, in the forums. We are the ones developing new techniques, new stuff, and new ideas. We are the ones progressing constantly. And we will be the ones moving on to bigger, better things. All the experience you gain with Bryce can only help when it comes time to choose your own personal "Big Dog". Sounds greedy, but I've been doing computer-art since it's inception. In 1980, I was doing pixel art in four colors on a TRS-80, with a joystick to paint with! I was four... As for Tutorials : ask, and you shall receive. They happen every day, here in the forums. If there's anything you'd like to know, just ask. Chances are, someone knows how, or at least how to make a workaround! But random tuts? Honestly, when I make those, I get little or no response. Maybe mine suck, but at least TELL me they suck! And what's important or technically exciting to me may not be, to anyone else. Make any sense?