heyas; yeah, it's not possible. it ain't broke. so i CANT fix it. so it stays messed up. i hate that. well i tried putting the master-master dials after the master dials in the pz2, but that didn't help. (figuring it was like a cascading dial order control or something, ya know?) but if i make them all targetGeoms... fer crying out loud, all it has to do is apply the k 0 value to the smeggin dial!!! in fact, that's all they had to do before.