okay, it is fixed. or, technically, re-done from scratch. i dunno what the big difference is, but since les asked... i decided to edify the rest of yas. they originally had a buncha master dials (for wings and tail) in the BODY. pose files dont save anything from the BODY. so they posed the eagle and saved the pose, then pasted the BODY channels in. all i did different was... well, first, i just moved the valueParms to the chest and tail instead of the BODY. then, ha-ha, i remembered (noticed) poser doesnt save valueparm dials in poses, either. it saves targetGeom dials, though, with the 'save morph' option. sooooooo.... i renamed the valueparm dials to targetgeom dials. then i loaded the eagle2x (mine), and applied the original pose -- it posed, no wing master dials were set. so i read the master dials from the pose file in cr2 edit, and just typed them in, in poser. saved the pose with morph channels, and presto. they all work. of course, they only work with the eagle 2x and not the eagle 2. poser funny sometimes.