Mike, Thanks for the info. Poser also loads the stumps with normals inverted, but it has a check box to correct it as well. A question: anybody know a free site that allows direct linking to zip files? At 3D Commune, free stuff allows you to post an htm link. Here at Renderosity it only allows a zip file (as far as I know). I've had problems with my site (in fact it was down for over a week until today) because of too much traffic through a direct link. Rich