Thanks mathman.I actually have a new headmorph that I wanted to throw as a bonus for my next skin pack for Elle. This skin pack is using p6 shaders nodes and should be ready very soon.I am almost done. creations: well I have a new character child on the table right now. his name is little Sven and he has very much realistic features.You can view him in this render as well as the new Elle skin texture pack soon available.