The do-it-yourself is also an economic thing. I have bought around 75 products at Renderosity alone so I am not cheap but my situation requires I spend only Poser earned money on Poser products unless I have a $ job that requires a specific prop or clothes. That aside, when it comes to certain things I can manage, textures, basic lighting and node work, I do enjoy learning it with the help of an expert. The books I have wasted money on have been useless, especialy as compared to the free tutorials and advise the comunity has gifted me. I go to the market place when it comes to utilities, geometries, or sheer grunt work I don't have time for and am happy to compensate someone else for doing. Yet, I love to learn how to do what I can possibly do and I apreciate all the help I have recieved. At the risk of insulting some generous old-timers, the quality of clothes and textures has improved exponentialy since the "Freebie Days" but there is absolutly less substantial free stuff I believe --someone who cared could check and sort the upload dates in Free Stuff and servay how many old extinct Freebie sites have been replaced. Freebies aside from some notible exceptions are becoming more a newbie thing while the experts go commercial to offset their costs. The quality of new comecial stuff by the top independent developers has skyrocketed, putting Daz and Curious Labs and other corporate/big-site vendors to shame, and competition and volume have driven down prices sometimes rediculously low so that I have gotten monstrously good products for $5, Which do you prefer? A $7 hair from 3Dream or a $25 hair from Daz? The reason I miss the "Frebie" spirit isn't so much money as Eve, Azura, Morph World 2.0, Yamato JPs! Mr. Maya and Koziburo also come out of that era. Nea is one of the most if not the most exciting thing to happen here in years? There was a joy in that. As for the do-it-yourself help, the community is and always has been very generous to me, but there has been this slide from the days of instructionals on hacking .cr2 in Poser 3 to slick commercial products in Poser 6... even if no one is actualy making money.