"It's amazing what Poser can be bullied into doing." True and it's a toss-up as to which is more time consuming, "bullying" Poser into doing something it really wasn't designed for or learning enough of a freebie CAD program that was designed to do just that. A lot of folks would rather grab a free or inexpensive house and do neither. Poser and Max are two different products with different audiences (though they sometimes overlap). IMO, a lot of the do it yourself capability in Poser has been garnered through hack and crack and the results have been amazing. The program itself has added new capabilities as well. Still, for various reasons, the main preference I think, is going to remain the use of premade content. Max is and always was about starting from scratch. Poser never was.

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