jacoggins and TheSecond, These are nice images. No, I don't know what the "ball" is but it might not be a ball at all...but if not a tupperware lid I go for old pingpong ball. TheSecond, I like this image. The highlights on the nose bridge and left arm make it work, while she is still not shadowed out. This thread has been, IS now lots of fun and revealing of the talent here. Peace to all. TomDart.