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I have only seen the 20D 17-85mm image stabilizer lens bundle, and that is more expensive that what you have stated about 1300 and 889 for the body only. I havent had a good look though as I will only pine for it! I tend to look at user reviews for lenses, this though can bring up mixed opinions, but you generally get the idea of what is good and what isnt. This is a good site for reviews see link As far as canon lenses go, lenses in the pro-sumer range are generally optically good they have a gold band round them, the L (Luxury) series lenses are their Pro range and have a red band round them some are beige in colour, and range from around 4-500 to several 1000 in some cases. Some of the Sigma and Tamron lenses are said to be good, although I have not got any so I cant offer an opinion. The bundled 18-55mm lens seems to be reasonably good, but wont have nearly the amount of range as your 10x Sony

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