SUCCESS!!!!! But not as you would think. :) I downloaded the materials you gave me, and I STILL had the problem. I had vue check if it was up to date and it said it was. However I went to the e-on website and cross-checked my version number with their Beta Update. The Beta was higher so I installed it. After that your material worked perfectly. So...my advice to anyone trying to work with ecosystems....Install the Beta Update. :) Thanks for all your help, It really means a lot that others are so willing to help out. Dragontales