AhHa! Now I know what you're doing wrong. And it IS related to the default position. Sorta. If you rescale the shins and or thighs along the Y axis. The figure no longer touches the floor properly. And the result is this stretching effect. I'm sure I can get it to work. Next time you do this. Turn off IK first. Then re-scale the legs and then drop the figure to the floor. That way. Adding IK should work without problems ScottA