Zhann opened this issue on Jun 05, 2005 ยท 65 posts
Quest posted Sat, 11 June 2005 at 2:20 AM
LSD, let me first say that youve managed to take my entire post out of context to feed your mal contentious rant. Nowhere in my post do I mention or single out the USA or any other country for that matter, but youve decided to spout your venom and direct your discontent at the country you admittedly care nothing about nor do you add to its betterment or contribute to its larger good. But you persist to take full advantage of its liberties and social programs and live off of it like a parasite living off its host. Typically you offer no options for betterment but offer rhetorical lip service instead. The post concerned itself with the use of words as gauges of definitions and their use in modern day societies. My use of the word we in: we may not live in the purest of democracies was intended as plural referring to all democracies, not just the US form of democracy. In particular it addressed the word anarchy as used in the previous post. You, my friend, are talking to the wrong guy. Ive been in and around the system. I have been quite active on different fronts throughout my life on different issues and matters. But just to touch lightly on your obtuse perspective, the United States has played host to more than 50 million immigrants, 500,000 to 1 million per year, more than any other country in the world. You think maybe theres some reason these people decide to converge on this country, even to the point of placing their lives in danger, facing possible death to get into this country? They come in droves to have their babies here by the thousands so that their children can be born Americans. You think maybe theyre looking for opportunities, following their hopes and aspirations? And many do make it in America, the melting pot of the world. It is unfortunate that a few of those that fall through the cracks of the system or fail to mold a life for themselves in this country, immigrants and citizens alike, are the ones that become your most vocal malcontented dissidents. Thats good to a degree; it holds a mirror up for us to reflect upon. Ask those that have struggled to make it here and that have found some level of comfort and they would not have had it any other way. An entirely different picture than the one you paint, yet another mirror held for us to reflect upon. Surely you or anyone else cant possibly believe the US is perfect in every or any way? If it was, every country in the world would be hard pressed to emulate it. Then again, theyre trying to emulate it. Can you show us an existing perfect populous nation or form of government? I think not! And yet in all modesty, it is America and American culture, which has had some of the most profound influence on modern history and the world (not all good but generally in a positive way) and all in the blink of an eye as compared to civilizations historical timeline. Vengeance and greed is yours to be had if that is what you want or follow. In case you didnt realize it, kidnapping, rape and murder are not exclusive to the United State. If the gut wrenchingly liberal state of Washington indeed allows state-sanctioned kidnapping and ransoming in place of child-support on the local level as you purport, which I very much doubt, then either become proactive to advocate against it, or move out to where its not state-sanctioned. Its your civil duty to make changes to a government you dont agree with. You may like to call these individual acts of atrocities forms of anarchy and blow them out of proportion but what they really are is criminal malfeasance in every sense of the word. Where I live, kidnapping and rape is against the law. Morality is an individual attribute and throughout history it has been shown very difficult to find the middle ground and make everyone happy on morality issues. Cases in point: abortion, euthanasia, the Terri Schiavo debate, cloning, just to mention a few. If you have the answers to these issues that would benefit the majority, please, by all means, feel free to contribute to the betterment of the whole and enlighten us. My friend, you make very broad and vague accusations without any factual backup. As far as imperialism is concerned, the US has done what the Europeans have been doing for millenniums, expanding their spheres of influence. Starting with the British American colonies right through the western expansion and on up to today. For your reading pleasure I offer: Wikipedia and Encarta why would the countries of Europe want something like this? The entire world should have learned it's lesson by now. The USA is a shining example of what NOT to do with government, just like the USSR. It's really no different, except that here it will have a much, much costlier toll in human life to change things. I suppose you have a better system that neither the US or Europe know about? What intellectual authority is it that you hold to make such absurd statements? Easy to regurgitate rhetorical nonsense without giving viable and workable solutions from the comfort of your easy chair.