Your response is a wise one, re: no one button solution the narrow mind is the one that says, "you are weak and worthless if you have to leave "The App". But that's what Extreme-ism is all about. However, I do understand the lure of wanting to develop one's talents so that it can be said, "I did all that on an Amiga and only used one finger to type!" Bad analogy. The job of animating really urges one to automate as much as possible because frame x frame is cost prohibitive or just too tiresome. Luckily, illustration begs me to cheat as much as possible, as does my producer. Thanks Joe. cheers, Don