Kevin, That explains a couple of things. I kept upgrading LW. But even when I had 6.5 it just kept crashing my machine. And I'm in deep with OSX now on a G5 so there's no going back. Yes, that material switching would be a pain and is the one very good thing about the greenbriar plugs. It's not a total re-rig but as you said, then you'd be in LW animating and not Poser. Currently I'm working in LW with a character built in LW so it works fine and yes, Lighting and the Graph Editor, woohoo!! As for this comic strip, its way better to be in Poser and tweak the motions. The IK works really comfortably in Poser. I can understand your reluctance to go to the bottom of another learning curve. I have re-rigged my LW character (and re-modeled) three times from the bottom up. And really, I just want to be animating scenes. The drum animation looked good. Good sync. Also had a look at the Fashion animation, very nice. I really liked the illustrations and type animation. So, Kevin. I've only met one person with the last name Flach and that was Bob Flach in Dallas. I saw your Fashion animation was in Ft. Worth. So, I had to ask any relations named Bob? I know astronomical odds but miracles happen.