Obviously I misconstrued the 'crappy workmanship' thing, my bad. I'm sure I'm much lousier at 3D than you since I just like to play around with Poser to relax and don't have your degree of motivation. You're certainly not the only one who longs for more collegial striving for excellence. Lobby for a new forum, start a Google group... I fear the galleries etc. here will always leave you frustrated. Best wishes on your quest.

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