I just did a search for the thread and found it. I know that photo because I saved it and used it for inspiration on one of my works "Penthouse in the City" http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=781971&Start=19&Artist=lgp692000&ByArtist=Yes As you can see, I did what a real creator would have. Only used the photo (and many others like it) to get a feel for what I wanted to design. You won't find my image in a google search unless you find my image. The backdrop outside the window is a photo, but I do not think there is a doubt about that. DOWN WITH THE POSERS (ummm, I mean wanna-be's)!!!