Oh lol got it! Some nights the brain is just not there! After the converting to with WW - 98% of the clothing I have done I just do the regular poser conform to figure 1, 2 or 3 from the top menu bar in poser. The 2% difference are for special clothing with morphs I want to keep, like hair that blows left, right, that kind of thing. That is when I sometimes use the advanced convert to buttons. Phil has some very good videos for us on doing that, well worth looking at even if you don't do optional advanced work. But there I sometimes cheat and if something looks good for a still image and has the movements I wanted to keep, I parent it, instead of continuing. Personally, I only mostly save the WW's from data files and not the obj's and cr2's it makes from the conversion. I want easy and quick and nothing taking up a lot of room in my already over crowded runtimes. :-)