I would just like to comment to you Jade that it is very nice to see that a forum can keep on going without all the bitterness back and forth and that people with a common enjoyment are willing to help each other out instead of tearing each other down. I have been watching this forum for about 2 weeks and am very impressed that it takes care to keep the disagreement off the main page and in it's own little confine. So far I am impressed with this forum and those who participate. I like the way you do the challange. I will be participating in future challanges. g Swade

There are 10 kinds of people: Those who know binary, and those who don't. 

A whiner is about as useful as a one-legged man at an arse kicking contest.