ditto, xeno. sex sells. everything. just look at the music industry, heh. britney spears (and all of her soft r&b mafia clones) cant sing worth a damn, shes degenerated into total white trash and i swear ive seen sheep with more intelligence -- but she still sells albums with her airbrushed ass and overdubbed voice. unfortunately, an unattractive base morph will crippled a model's sales. and by unatttractive i dont necessarily mean stick-thin and supermodel-like (bah), but it has to have some sortof allure. you can have a model thats technically overweight but if she has an attractive shape and some alluring curves she will do well. now im sure some people will say 'but i only buy skin textures with skin disorders' or 'my entire poser library consists of morbidly obese characters' and thus try to refute my statement, but i have news for you: you are a niche market :) when over 90% of poser users want an ideal thats been spoonfed to them since birth by the media, then a merchant trying to make their rent is unfortunately shooting themselves in the foot if they deviate from that ideal very much. that said, there is still a lot that you can do to distinguish your characters while still keeping them visually apppealing, so you dont have to produce a library of anorexic, shapeless cameron-diaz clones to do so.... sex appeal can stem from something as small as the curve of a calf, or a killer navel... but unfortunately the bulk of people dont find a morbidly obese person sexy, and while this isnt 'PC' its not likely to change very soon. cheerio, -gabriel