"Then there is the slightly off-topic claim that the market is dominated by DAZ & CL. Not to be a pain, but given this is about "content" - I would like to know how CL dominates the market? DAZ I'll give you as we all know just how much content has been built for V3/M3 etc, but CL? Please tell me which of their figures has dominated anything since Posette? If you are talking about the software - I have to find that kind of laughable. I mean, it's like saying Norton dominates the "Norton Antivirus" market. I mean, one would expect the maker of Poser to dominate the "Poser software" market in much the same way as the maker of Acrobat will dominate the "Acrobat software" market. I think I must be missing something here." lay off, i am not part of some 'PR machine' - im stating my own opinion just like everyone else here. CL dominates the 'home hobbyist 3D market'. not the landscape market - which has dozens of appps starting from terragen to bryce, vue, worldbuilder, blah blah, but the figure one. name one other piece of softwarre that does for the home hobbyist what poser does (and dont say daz studio, that doesnt even qualify as 'alpha' software, let alone beta). everything else is in the professional market segment and is far out of the reach of the average home user. together, daz and CL dominate the poser market. daz in terms of original figures and its seemingly 'official' appearance, and CL in terms of the software itself. it would only be good for us poser users if they were both unseated - or even if their stranglehold were loosened - since good, healthy competition only benefits the consumer. monopolies are extremely unhealthy. daz discredits and quashes original meshes that would directly compete with their mike and vicky flagship lines both passively and actively - passively by the false consumer perception that they are somehow above us all (as opposed to a bunch of entrepreneurs exactly like the rest of us) and that the rest of us are all second-rate 3rd party developers. actively by quashing products such as sixus1's original figure offering that would directly compete with V3. also, do you think V3 is free by accident? or by some irrational act of selfless generosity on daz's part? hah. now i dont hate daz, nor do i hate CL... but i am not so shortsighted as not to see that both the perceived and actual monopoly they both hold on the Poser software and 'original figure' market is very bad for the poser community. so, i would support renderosity - or any other party with the clout and finances to go toe-to-toe with daz and not get pushed around or swept under the rug or run out of steam - merely on the basis that it promotes growth in the community, and variety. the fact that renda's default shape is so similar to vicky3's, as opposed to something refreshingly different, disappoints me, and so does the fact that it was released with some joint issues, but FFS it just got released today: lets not bury it the same day. cheers, -gabriel