quote "i just keep wondering how much larger the poser market has to become before a serious company steps in and creates a competing application."unquote Amen.. im really suprised alias/discreet/softimage hasent just stepped in and said "gee! thanks for getting everyone interested..we will take it from here!" it wouldnt be hard. profits are there, code base of existing software is already state of the art=3dsmax/maya/XSI etc. bound to happen sooner or later..