Apolli? Isn't that a town? Seriously though. Shape is a subjective. I did intend him to be flexible and soft-bodied. The baby fat was purposely added to offset "Plastic" references I have seen over the years. Also I just don't think 80K poly figures are the answer. The make the figures bend worse past a certain count. Diagnal cutlines are not joint friendly and cause half the problems with Poser/3d figures. If people who have done 4 generations of figures over 7 years still can't do it themselves that is saying maybe the method doesn't work? In Lord of the Rings, look at Glollum's arms. Count how many times his elbows go above his ears. During your own day count the number of times your elbows go over your ears. Watch the matrix and count.. etc etc. Moreso than legs, with arms you must make a choice. Polygons are polygons and you have to make choices in design. My choice was a figure that met 97% of pose needs. lol my motto is "Apollo wins hands down" No pun intended. :) Also JCM is not the answer. Rememebr he has none and poses so well. I could have put it in but where does that leave the clothing makers? I think JCM is deceptive. SHow me what it does without it. That is what I would want to know. Right? That way you know what clothes can do etc. Morphs can always be added by creator or user. I actually wish people would. They are allowed to. But the more you commit any one figure to a specific geom genre, the harder it is to get away from that with morphs. Has anyone ever noticed that all those figures with pretty kneecap cutlines all have the same problem? Why is that..the cutline maybe? See where I am going witht this? Besides if he was cut by default everyone would say he didn't look real. When you are dealing with artistic vision, you can't really win. :) Everyone thinks something different is "normal" or "correct". hehe Those crazy artists. Fore example, his default proportions are an alamgam of 7 different human proportional charts and I have seen some say his forearms are too short. Any longer and he would look like a chimp but go figure. hehe In the end each person should use what you like and what you enjoy. But if after all these years, and figures, you are still unhappy, buy Apollo. He isn't like anything else. OMG I am so chatty tonight. Way tooo much caffine. lol

-Anton, creator of Apollo Maximus
"Conviction without truth is denial; Denial in the face of truth is concealment."

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