Thanks all for the comments - appreciate it! Hope to have this finished this weekend and I'll post it as a freebie. Rudy - side greebles added, helped a lot. Diolma- another good idea, tried two entrances and hated them both :-) but I think I'm on to something now with framed glass "atrium"- kinda like that museum in Paris (whose name escapes me). Dann-o - created in Modo. Erlik - Well, I've never really tired Lightwave but most of the Modo team are ex-LW people (the CEO is Brad Peebler who was one of the founders of LW) so I'd say Modo is a lot like LW. It even uses .LWO for it's native file format. Most LW users seem to think Modo is a lot less "bloated". One nice thing though is that the upcoming Modo SDK is supposed to allow easy porting of LW plug-ins - there's a lot of cool LW plugs I'd like to have. Again, thanks for all the input; Dan