" In case anyone's wondering, I deleted my last post because I had a feeling that Blackhearted would take it the wrong way (I just agreed that I think there are real problems with Renda's face and breasts)." haha, sneaky bugger. i answered it anyway :) admittedly i havent tried the most recent versions of daz studio. but the ones i did try werent even remotely complete, and they didnt even really do anything. im not anti-daz, at all. but i am getting fed up with their business practices - everything from the .99 cent shit to forcing people like sixus1 out as competitors to the overly-restrictive licenses (even though vicky/mike would be jack @$#% without merchant support) to the whole 'offer a base product but then sell everything necessary for it to actually work separately in $30 packs'. ironically daz studio uses just this same concept :) ooh, were so generous and selfless, have thhis product we developed for free! then yoou load it up and realise it does @%#$ all, and you are going to have to buy all of their expensive plugins just to do anything with it. and im sad that the entire poser market revolves around vicky's deformed body simply because of the monopoly daz has in the original figure market. not only does 99% of clothing get modelled over that shape but it also influences the bulk of artwork. hell its at the point where someone like jim releases a properly proportioned model and people say 'her head is too big'. umno, vicky's head is too @$#%ing small! ive been telling people this for years, but theyve had vicky and her clones shoved doown their throats for so long that she has become the 'norm' -- hell, even an 'ideal'. its extremely depressing. so no, i dont 'hate daz'. but im sad that they have such a huge role in the community but they are just so damned aloof about everything and dont realise the negative impact a lot of their actions have on the community. i do this for a living, so i would be lying if i said that profit isnt a big motivator for me. but ive been a member here for a long time and im extremely loyal to rosity, so i do consiider how my actions - and the actions of others - affect poser. i want poser to be recognised, i want the marketplace to get a facelift, i want this political squabbling BS to stop and us all to do well - as artists and merchants. but in the direction were headed its not going to happen. people want merchants to start giving away products for .99 cents, do they realise how this is going to affect the quality level of the average poser product and attitude of the merchants? what typpe of merchants its going to attract? how many longtime talented merchants are just going to say @$#% this, and just go do something else rather than sell their work like at a flea market stall? bah, im going to stop before i get really riled up.