This thread convinced me. I have a handful of DAZ guys, and I've never, ever, used any of them because they all look like Aryan morons with family values. I stuck with the vaguely Mediterranean P5 guy until James appeared, using the Face Room to generate faces that don't look like they came off Reich military posters. The publicity shot of AMax put me off a bit, because it's so obviously gay that I worried that all I'd be getting is a boy toy. This thread settled my worries -- tremendous diversity, and a design based on anatomy, not "the white norm". And Anton's REVERSE MORPH demo clinched the deal. I've struggled with -dials since V1 to try to get some variety into their "Cosmo with family values" homogeneousness. (What I love about Steph is her "plainness.") It may not be obvious what a -Asian face should look like, but doesn't take rocket science to figure out that the reverse of Big_Boob_17 ought to look something like a normal chest. (What kind of family values give you seventeen breast enhancers and no way to put a bump in the nose?) Thank you, Anton. Buying at RDNA as I write. Now if someone could just get the Yamato gang interested in turning Jessi from wonderful statuary into a real girl.... (High hopes for the Netherworks Morph Pack, which I picked up yesterday, but still no nipples, and her chest is still one body part. Sigh. Teach me to complain about breast enhancers.) M