blackhearted, I totally agree with you on pricing and cheap, quick products. But the ironic thing is that DAZ is probably the best site for any merchant interested in maintaining quality. I've been with DAZ for 4 years. My products take an average of 3 - 4 months to build, and most sell for $15 - $25. Never once have DAZ tried to get me to increase my output, go for 'quickies', or anything that would reduce the quality in any way. They're very supportive of their merchants and I appreciate that. In the end, one of the things that counts when people decide to buy, is the merchant's reputation. I'm sure you know this more than most people. I take my time because I know that customers judge you on individual products. If one is crap, they're not going to buy more from me. And if I'm asking someone for $25, I make damned sure that they're getting their money's worth and have no cause for complaint. The fact that I have practically nil in returned products, despite DAZ's 30-day money-back guarantee, tells me I'm doing something right. mac