"So obviously gay...." Sorry, I didn't realize we were doing PC. I'm reasonably sure those of us who have seen Tom of Finland cartoons know what I meant, but never mind. And, by the way, I spent an hour fiddling with AM dials this afternoon. Very impressive: a fabulous selection of face dials and the "Line of Sight" object is brilliant. Impressive and easily worth the price, especially when you consider that the comparable V3 (I never bothered with M3, as far as I can remember), meaning base, face pack and body pack, weighs in at 100 megs. AM is a 28 meg zip. Kudos. M