OK-well, if anyone still reads this far down, you should have all noticed that I started this discussion and never really returned to it. I shall now do so. Here's what I have come up with: 1) I can do this alone. 2) I don't have the time to do it right. While it would be possible, it would consume me...and I have other things to do. Plus, when school starts, chances are excellent that I will have little time to run a site, so this site would suffer the same fate as number one. If nothing else but of respect for the origional, we cannot allow that to happen. I've done some thinking, and I have an idea: Since we are all somewhat interested in this, we should collaborate. We could split this effort into a team of 5-6 people. Sure, I can do the basic design work (loading php nuke), but I can't maintain it after alone. All team members would have full site access, and they would be the forum moderators. If a problem was found (a daily occurance on FF), it could be taken care of quickly by one or two people. If one person left, we would be ok. FF was the product of Derek (kimpe helped, but in the end it was still Derek's site) The point of the team approach is that we all would contribute, but none of us would be making a big commitment, which is what I think has prevented FFII. So...anyone with me? //Matt "If only it were that simple.." Maybe that's why I'm not all that great......cause for me it really is.....