Well, RadArt your right that there are a lot of talented people in the community. However nobody makes mesh models of humans. Characters made with morphs,textures, props,even clothing, but no mesh figures... well damn few anyway. I am the customer RadArt why should I be apologetic about a problem with a product I paid for. I never complained to them. I didn't think it would do much good and I could still use the product with a little effort. So if I want to do a little venting amongst my peers....I WILL!!! If Zygote is watching... so what. They aint God so I'm not to worried about staying on there good side. Actually I don't hold that much animosity against them. I just don't like being told to shut up because we got company. lol See what you did RadART you've got me all riled up. Ghostofmacbeth, I appreciatte the advice. I'm not sure if I updated vickie or not. I bought her and Mike and some clothes all at once. So I had alot of stuff to install and I mite have forgot to update her. That could be it. Thanks.

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