ok, im using lightwave to model i try using the knife tool on every edge but I dont get edges like i want, I also get all those examples obm890, but the look I needed was when I unwelded the whole mesh and then inported it to poser unwelded, but its suposed to be welded right? Sincerly,Manuel ill try this uvmapper example next but can you explain a little about normals, whats a normal.