I have to agree with Radart, CreativeOne, you are hearing aggression where there is none, probably because you are so aggressive you assume must be like you also. Just because we find the situation humorous is not in fact being a day late or any dollar short. Nor is it "reading" you. It is merely, laughing. Good medicine for the soul. Try it sometime. My post is one of laughter at the whole situation, since the second I got Poser, and I do mean the day I got it out of the box, nothing I saw (with the exception of maybe Thorne's girls) was good enough for me, so I got under the hood, rolled up my sleeves, and began to learn. It has been a learning curve, but I am the better for it. Maybe it was because I don't have all the money in the world to buy from others that is a motivator, so Im not so spoiled in my expectations. I do expect to have to work to get my models right, my scenes right, everything just right. Some of us are mechanics, architects, and engineers as our art goes, creators all, others of us are shadetree render hobbiests who think if they throw enough money at something it will make them creative. Now, I'd watch my Colonial tongue were I you at this stage. You have been offered help nicely, people have been as understanding of your feelings as they know how to be. But you want to raise your voice and start turning this into a heated name calling flaming hateful debate of the sort you launched first onto Zygote's team (BTW what in HELL does their religion have to do with the price of tea in India?), then let lose your wolf ;p As I said, people here have long memories.