You tell me who it is and I'll investigate. If you want to instigate a witch hunt, then do it without any help. And assuming anything like that is not very smart. Anyone who would do something mallicious in one place will more than likely do it somewhere else - I don't knowingly work with people like that. Your assumption is pure speculation. I don't make assumptions about people here - I deal directly. I have no hessitations about publically saying I don't like the way Edgenet does business, but I also don't assume Russel is unethical. He's always been fair and helpful. And Ironbear has always been a person who seemd to be a stand up kind of guy... I don't see them as the same sort of person just because they associate with a company I don't trust. Painting everyone in any group the same because one person may have done something is just unreasonable.